Are we getting Born from a Wish?

It's true: Bloober Team is remaking Silent Hill 2. Talk about it in here to keep Remake talk separate from the original!

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It's not going to bomb. It's currently the 15th highest selling PS5 game on Amazon Canada.

It's ahead of the Until Dawn remake too BTW.
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If I were to guess, I think that the Remake will include this content more naturally as part of the base game. There could potentially be a completely missable piece of side content that you as James with Maria in tow could stumble across that covers this part.

Naturally, this entire scenario will have to be rewritten and in a more cryptic fashion as you'd have to see it from James' perspective, yet it can't come together until later on. I'd scatter this content as an ongoing side content throughout the game. Early pieces at times when you're with Maria (Possibly even having James stuck, so you play as Maria briefly, though this is not necessary), then a few more as James by himself to get the last pieces following the prison, just before Toluca Lake.

These areas will only be accesible if you do them in order, needing a particular item or note to access the next area. Backtracking ought to be possible in certain instances. The sort of thing many might end up needing a guide for, but if you're playing carefully, it should be doable on the first run.

Konami would love to charge us more for a new lengthier DLC episode, but I also think it works as a way for Bloober to pad out the content of the base game with something already canonical.
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To be honest, I'd prefer to see completely new DLC scenarios. For example, playing as Eddie could be interesting since we know he has a gun. Bang bang bang.
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Jonipoon wrote: 16 Sep 2024 To be honest, I'd prefer to see completely new DLC scenarios. For example, playing as Eddie could be interesting since we know he has a gun. Bang bang bang.
Same. There's an opportunity here to see SH2 from an entirely different perspective. Hope they're brave enough to try something like this!
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I have a feeling, if we don't get initially get it, it'll be tied to the sales numbers ......

In regards to a new story DLC, Angelas would be very interesting to me.
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The idea of Bloober Team writing their own Angela-focused segment about her experiences fills me with dread and terror.
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This is why I'm guessing that a bunch of the new side content will be missions that deal specifically with James' and Mary's memories, Maria, Eddie, Angela, Laura, and some bits of specifically new SH town stories/lore.

Basically, there is no DLC, the new content and endings are already in the game. Maybe the best ending has everyone leaving the town together.
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Droo wrote: 16 Sep 2024 The idea of Bloober Team writing their own Angela-focused segment about her experiences fills me with dread and terror.
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Droo wrote: 16 Sep 2024 The idea of Bloober Team writing their own Angela-focused segment about her experiences fills me with dread and terror.
Don't get me wrong, Bloober needs to stay in their lane here.

Angelas story is something I'd like to see if we had the right people writing it.

I kinda see it the same way as Cunningham's comic (Anne's Story) for Downpour. If things were different with Downpour, I would have liked to see that scenario in gameplay.
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Droo wrote: 15 Sep 2024 It's not going to bomb. It's currently the 15th highest selling PS5 game on Amazon Canada.

It's ahead of the Until Dawn remake too BTW.
I hope so I have faith that it will sell decent on the name alone. I'd love to see the series become successful as a whole, filling a niche like RE does. As long as the games live up to that of course.
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We will get Born from a Wish... As a pachinko machine!!
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jdnation wrote: 17 Sep 2024Maybe the best ending has everyone leaving the town together.
Any ending that shows James successfully escaping Silent Hill will directly contradict the events of SILENT HILL 4: THE ROOM, as evidenced by Frank’s comments about his son.
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He successfully leaves Silent Hill in the Leave ending in the original.

Also, who cares if it contradicts SH4? It just means it's a noncanon ending.
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Jonipoon wrote: 18 Sep 2024
jdnation wrote: 17 Sep 2024Maybe the best ending has everyone leaving the town together.
Any ending that shows James successfully escaping Silent Hill will directly contradict the events of SILENT HILL 4: THE ROOM, as evidenced by Frank’s comments about his son.
No it doesn't. Just because James disappeared doesn't mean Leave is not canon. James probably isn't going back to his old life after the events of SH2. "Hey pops I'm back after _____ing my wife, can I get a job behind the desk at the apartments".
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Chris Sunderland wrote: 18 Sep 2024
Jonipoon wrote: 18 Sep 2024
jdnation wrote: 17 Sep 2024Maybe the best ending has everyone leaving the town together.
Any ending that shows James successfully escaping Silent Hill will directly contradict the events of SILENT HILL 4: THE ROOM, as evidenced by Frank’s comments about his son.
No it doesn't. Just because James disappeared doesn't mean Leave is not canon. James probably isn't going back to his old life after the events of SH2. "Hey pops I'm back after _____ing my wife, can I get a job behind the desk at the apartments".
^Exactly.

James would have to disappear....
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Jonipoon wrote: 18 Sep 2024Any ending that shows James successfully escaping Silent Hill will directly contradict the events of SILENT HILL 4: THE ROOM, as evidenced by Frank’s comments about his son.
I doubt Bloober intends that any of their new content be considered canon with the rest of the original series. So it's okay to have a few new endings and joke endings.

It's more likely that SH1,3 and 4 will also be remade, and alongside 2 could establish their own Remake universe and continuity.
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jdnation wrote: 19 Sep 2024
Jonipoon wrote: 18 Sep 2024Any ending that shows James successfully escaping Silent Hill will directly contradict the events of SILENT HILL 4: THE ROOM, as evidenced by Frank’s comments about his son.
I doubt Bloober intends that any of their new content be considered canon with the rest of the original series. So it's okay to have a few new endings and joke endings.

It's more likely that SH1,3 and 4 will also be remade, and alongside 2 could establish their own Remake universe and continuity.
I am unsure of this. Bloober seems to cater to traditionalists regarding the story. I'd be surprised if something was added to break canon.
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Alternate endings wouldn't qualify as breaking canon. Especially given the original endings are being maintained.

There is the potential risk of new character details or town lore being in conflict, but character wise, so little (next to nothing really) is known or spoken of in other games regarding anyone in SH2.

The only games where continuity does matter the most are SH 1 and 3. And, well... 0rigins...
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Hit the nail on the head, although I don't believe Bloober would be as egregious as the below.....

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>No it doesn't. Just because James disappeared doesn't mean Leave is not canon.

Who says that ”Leave” actually confirms James as having escaped Silent Hill? It doesn’t. James is only shown walking through fog in the distance. For all we know, he could still be trapped in Silent Hill.

When I say ”ending that shows James successfully escaping Silent Hill” I mean any new ending that shows or directly implies that James is back in the real world.
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