What does Heather see after God is defeated?

Heather finds out why it's true that you shouldn't talk to strangers. Or look in mirrors, quite honestly.

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It's not really a time cycle, it's a spiritual cycle of rebirth. But it sort of ends with Heather since God isn't in her anymore.
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I'm from Greece and I don't speak English as articulated as you do.
Sorry for the misunderstanding, but we are actually talking about the same thing.
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when i saw the making of sh3 i thought that the crying baby was just a random sound effect, but if it is not ... then i think is claudia reborn because it is said in the game that she has this strange powers as alessa...
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QuartzCrystal2233 wrote:when i saw the making of sh3 i thought that the crying baby was just a random sound effect, but if it is not ... then i think is claudia reborn because it is said in the game that she has this strange powers as alessa...
The baby crying wasn't included in the final game, so it's not canon. But if it were canon I think you'd be spot on. God made Heather/reincarnated Alessa in SH1, so why wouldn't she attempt to reincarnate anyone else who was successfully* used as the Mother of God? Even if Claudia wasn't supposed to be the Mother, and even if her time in that role was short, I think God could have done exactly that.

*Technically they were successful. It was simply someone else's actions after the birth that ruined everything.
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Soulless-Shadow wrote:
QuartzCrystal2233 wrote:when i saw the making of sh3 i thought that the crying baby was just a random sound effect, but if it is not ... then i think is claudia reborn because it is said in the game that she has this strange powers as alessa...
The baby crying wasn't included in the final game, so it's not canon. But if it were canon I think you'd be spot on. God made Heather/reincarnated Alessa in SH1, so why wouldn't she attempt to reincarnate anyone else who was successfully* used as the Mother of God? Even if Claudia wasn't supposed to be the Mother, and even if her time in that role was short, I think God could have done exactly that.

*Technically they were successful. It was simply someone else's actions after the birth that ruined everything.
yeah it's possible and it would be an interesting game sequel.
as you say technically they were successful, i agree. And the aglophotis ruined things too.
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I personally don't think Claudia was reborn. I think Heather was just looking in despair of what had just happened.

This part of the game was a little ridiculous: when Heather takes the pill of aglaophotis I mean. And I didn't really like the final cutscene either, but don't get me wrong, I love this game and these minor setbacks are far outweighed by the good things about this game.

But... When Claudia says "I WILL BIRTH GOD!!" and eats the god fetus, and goes all epileptic AHAAHAHGHAAAa it was just ridiculous. I know it's just a game ok, but I don't think someone can swallow something whole that is that large. And even if the god could survive this weird artificial pregnancy thing because of its power, a woman's uterus isn't connected to the stomach and digestive tract. Really when Heather takes the pill she couldn't have possibly puked up the fetus and Claudia would have just turned the god or demon fetus into shit. It would have made more sense, if when Heather took the pill, if it just killed the evil baby inside her. I understand that this would ruin the game because then you couldn't fight the boss but it's just really freaking weird and absurd. Maybe that's not bad, because I like weird things I just felt a need to rant on this.
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nothingbut3% wrote:I personally don't think Claudia was reborn. I think Heather was just looking in despair of what had just happened.

This part of the game was a little ridiculous: when Heather takes the pill of aglaophotis I mean. And I didn't really like the final cutscene either, but don't get me wrong, I love this game and these minor setbacks are far outweighed by the good things about this game.

But... When Claudia says "I WILL BIRTH GOD!!" and eats the god fetus, and goes all epileptic AHAAHAHGHAAAa it was just ridiculous. I know it's just a game ok, but I don't think someone can swallow something whole that is that large. And even if the god could survive this weird artificial pregnancy thing because of its power, a woman's uterus isn't connected to the stomach and digestive tract. Really when Heather takes the pill she couldn't have possibly puked up the fetus and Claudia would have just turned the god or demon fetus into shit. It would have made more sense, if when Heather took the pill, if it just killed the evil baby inside her. I understand that this would ruin the game because then you couldn't fight the boss but it's just really freaking weird and absurd. Maybe that's not bad, because I like weird things I just felt a need to rant on this.
I just thought of something. Wouldn't it be fucking A if Heather actually got the Fetus out of her vagina, like giving birth and shit, and then Claudia put it back in her the same way?
But I guess video games do not have the same freedom as animation and movies to show such a thing, even if the good parts are covered. Too bad.

Anyway, the whole thing is pretty much symbolic, doesn't have to make much sense, at least in the psychical world.
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And even if the god could survive this weird artificial pregnancy thing because of its power, a woman's uterus isn't connected to the stomach and digestive tract. Really when Heather takes the pill she couldn't have possibly puked up the fetus and Claudia would have just turned the god or demon fetus into shit.
The God isn't literally in her uterus, dude. It's a spirit that was placed in her mind, basically. Therefore it can come in and out of a person without having to adhere to biology.
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Ok then, well that fixes everything.
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>even if the good parts are covered. Too bad.<
During birth, there are no good parts.
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The Adversary wrote:>even if the good parts are covered. Too bad.<
During birth, there are no good parts.
Oh really :D ?
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AnastasisXD wrote:
The Adversary wrote:>even if the good parts are covered. Too bad.<
During birth, there are no good parts.
Oh really :D ?
So, you have some weird childbirth fetish and get off on watching the baby's head squeeze out and potentially rip apart the vagina? :shock:
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AnastasisXD wrote:
The Adversary wrote:>even if the good parts are covered. Too bad.<
During birth, there are no good parts.
Oh really :D ?
Really. Watch a video of a live birth and see for yourself. They're out there.
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alone in the town wrote:
AnastasisXD wrote:
The Adversary wrote:>even if the good parts are covered. Too bad.<
During birth, there are no good parts.
Oh really :D ?
Really. Watch a video of a live birth and see for yourself. They're out there.
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Weren't you? I thought I recognized you from that birth video. ;)
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AuraTwilight wrote:
And even if the god could survive this weird artificial pregnancy thing because of its power, a woman's uterus isn't connected to the stomach and digestive tract. Really when Heather takes the pill she couldn't have possibly puked up the fetus and Claudia would have just turned the god or demon fetus into shit.
The God isn't literally in her uterus, dude. It's a spirit that was placed in her mind, basically. Therefore it can come in and out of a person without having to adhere to biology.
While I certainly agree with you Aura, I must confess to finding the last few cutscenes kinda funny.
Claudia: "You have to birth the God Alessa! "
Heather: *pukes up fetus*
Claudia: *Shrugs* "Best laid plans, eh?" *Eats fetus*
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I had no problem with the last scenes. They were kind of epic (in a strange, creepy way) if you ask me.
AnastasisXD wrote:I just thought of something. Wouldn't it be fucking A if Heather actually got the Fetus out of her vagina, like giving birth and shit, and then Claudia put it back in her the same way?
But I guess video games do not have the same freedom as animation and movies to show such a thing, even if the good parts are covered. Too bad.
Although you were just kidding (were you?) it still wouldn't work 'cause the puking thing was symbolic. If God had been squeezed out through her vagina it would mean it was fully born. And it would mean she gave birth to it. But the truth is.. that she didn't. She repelled it. She puked it out like after having a really disgusting meal. So.. squeezing through the vagina--> natural birth to a completely healthy child (or God); puking-->repelling that distigusting shit out of you.
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mikefile wrote:I had no problem with the last scenes. They were kind of epic (in a strange, creepy way) if you ask me.
AnastasisXD wrote:I just thought of something. Wouldn't it be fucking A if Heather actually got the Fetus out of her vagina, like giving birth and shit, and then Claudia put it back in her the same way?
But I guess video games do not have the same freedom as animation and movies to show such a thing, even if the good parts are covered. Too bad.
Although you were just kidding (were you?) it still wouldn't work 'cause the puking thing was symbolic. If God had been squeezed out through her vagina it would mean it was fully born. And it would mean she gave birth to it. But the truth is.. that she didn't. She repelled it. She puked it out like after having a really disgusting meal. So.. squeezing through the vagina--> natural birth to a completely healthy child (or God); puking-->repelling that distigusting shit out of you.
The puking was surely symbolic, but vaginal passage of a fetus =/= healthy baby. Stillborn babies and mis-carriages also come from there.

And I don't think Claudia was necessarily reborn. Would have been interesting though.
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Personally, I thought she looks back to Alessa God's corpse. Maybe she's just relieved its over or something.
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I would like to think that it is perhaps what people mentioned before and that since Claudia birthed the God, not Heather, she is reincarnated as a baby by God to bring in the birthing process over and over. That would be really interesting, but I don't think Heather would leave a baby all alone in that room with a dead God...unless her inner Alessa is telling her, "Do you really want this all to happen again? Forget the kid. Let's go to Happy Burger, I'm starved!"
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