Two staircases, one meaning.

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Two staircases, one meaning.

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After you leave angelas stairecase of fire you are in another staircase. A stairecase of water. [I beleive it is filled with water, correct me if im wrong] I beleive that these staircases represent the end of angela and james journey through silent hill. Shortly after james goes up his staircase, he is forced to face his fears and end this as he states. We can assume that angela ended it as well just by how suicidal she was. Maybe her staircase led to the roof and she flung herself off. We have no way of knowing.

For some reason at that particular moment we can see angelas nightmare. Her fire actually stops you from going up the stairs while she walks right through it. I think the reason why we see her fire at that point in time is because we cant go up that stairecase. Its her staircase and her ending. james cant save her and he knows it. Shit, he can bearly save himself. He has his own staircase and his own problems to deal with.

I would also like to point out that james goes up a very long series of stairs right before the final battle. they actually fall out from under him when he gets to the top. indicating his journey in silent hill is almost over and there is no turning back.
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Interesting theory. It really makes me think about the two staircases and the meaning behind them.
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Well I noticed the staircase falling down after reaching the top of the... cage?
I thought it was just for preventing you of running away from that room, but this is a deeper thought on the staircase
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Great theory! Though, can you actually see the staircase fall down? Or is it just gone after you reach the top?
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Though, can you actually see the staircase fall down? Or is it just gone after you reach the top?
As you walk up parts of it fall off. When you get to the top the whole thing falls below you.
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Ah, thanks, its been a little while so I can't remember.
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Ah, thanks, its been a little while so I can't remember.
No problem. I understand this isnt a ground-breaking theory. But it is some good food for thought.
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Yeah, that sounds pretty cool. It makes me wonder if Eddie would have ended up there too if James hadn't killed him, and what his staircase might have been like.
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^ Probably full of bullies :lol:
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Or maybe pizza. :P

An interesting theory. It's interesting how James relates with water over the course of the game, he is juxtaposed with it so many times. The savepoint in the well, the flooded staircase, the water-damaged rooms, the clues in the showers, the boat on the lake, and the In Water ending. I am not stating that that ending is canon (after all, "Rebirth" features a water-borne James as well), just that there seems to be a sort of symbolism inherent.

Oddly, though, none of the monsters are water-dwelling or aquatic in nature.
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Oddish wrote:
Oddly, though, none of the monsters are water-dwelling or aquatic in nature.
I didn't even think of the well, good eye, but about the monsters, I find that most, if not all of the monsters in Silent Hill 2 have that...bright watery look to them, I don't know what that could mean really.
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^ All the monsters have this "water bright" effect but the Lying Figures and Mannequins are the ones that shows it the most, also, PH has it on his helmet.. I don't know what this could mean, but I heard somewhere that water could mean depression, deep darkness, hollow... Pretty much like James feels, huh?
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Water can also symbolize spiritual cleansing.
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That's really interesting. I still wonder what happens to angela..........
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Just more of Jacob's Ladder's influence on the world of Silent Hill. :)
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True, but remember how the movie ended. There is hope in the fact that Angela ascends the staircase instead of descending it: perhaps she is destined for a happy ending after all, just not in this world.
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I like the idea of Angela climbing the staircase toward a better ending, yet the flames that engulf it give off a hellish view.

Still awesome, though.
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diluculo wrote:I like the idea of Angela climbing the staircase toward a better ending, yet the flames that engulf it give off a hellish view.

Still awesome, though.
The fire in many cultures can be viewed both as hellish and as a cleansening.

For Oddish - very good observation. Never realized James was connected with water so much. By the way does anyone (or is there any topic) how did Eddie get down there into that refrigerator? Did he also go down through the staircase through SH Historical Society. That could be the staircase both for Eddie and James.
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pepazdepa wrote:
The fire in many cultures can be viewed both as hellish and as a cleansening.

For Oddish - very good observation. Never realized James was connected with water so much. By the way does anyone (or is there any topic) how did Eddie get down there into that refrigerator? Did he also go down through the staircase through SH Historical Society. That could be the staircase both for Eddie and James.
I hadn't noticed the rise/descent of both characters before hand, whoa. Very nice.
Angela, dying as she moved upward, toward a 'new beginning', if you will. Eddie, dying in the depths of the Historical Society after breaking down.
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