Writing on the Seal of Metatron

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Writing on the Seal of Metatron

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I did a search and couldn't find a topic on this, so here goes nothing. :P Hopefully I didn't overlook one.


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Behold, Metatron. Nothing new.
However, I found an interesting image somewhere. (It might have even been on this forum, so massive whups if it was. x_x) `Turns out that the markings in the outer circle (outside the triangle) are Enochian symbols. An alphabet of sorts. Put em all together and what does it spell?


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Xuchilbara.

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Xuchilbara
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/\ Bingo. That sounds pretty accurate to me.
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The characters at 11 o'clock and 3 o'clock look slightly different to me, but it's nitpicking regardless.
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They look like mirror images of one another, yeah.
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I was attempting some religious research. Here are some things I found, I did not know that the symbol was a modified version of this;

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Metatron - Chancellor of heaven, prince of the ministering angels. He is charged with the sustenance of mankind. He has been known as the link between the human and the divine. The angel who wrestled with Jacob. (Genesis 32), As the watchman (Isaiah 20) Also see Exodus 23:20 for this refers to Metratron as well. Metatron, according to the cabala is the angel said to have lead the children of Israel through the wilderness. His female equivalent is Shekinah. His twin brother is Sandalphon.


Various names of the Archangel Metatron. Its been reported that Metatron has more than 100 different names. Here are some of those names:
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So Xuchilbara = Valtiel, yet the crest bearing his signature can be used independent of his goals, rather, can be invoked to seal God away, which runs directly counter to Valtiel's raison d'etre.
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I guess this is just more wood in the fire for Valtiel being the Red God..
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alone in the town wrote:So Xuchilbara = Valtiel, yet the crest bearing his signature can be used independent of his goals, rather, can be invoked to seal God away, which runs directly counter to Valtiel's raison d'etre.
How do you figure? I always thought the Seal of Metatron was in place to somewhat control the powers of the town and give them shape and form.
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To me, it's fundamentally immaterial, because I still don't think there are any gods in Silent Hill.
How do you figure? I always thought the Seal of Metatron was in place to somewhat control the powers of the town and give them shape and form.
Well, Alessa was toting it around in the first game for a rather singular purpose and it had nothing to do with interior decorating. It's why Vincent had such a hard-on for the Talisman.
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Please read my thread about Valtiel & Metatron, and how they're the same. You have to realize, Alone in the Town, that though the Virun VII Crest was used against god's birth in Silent Hill 1, it is only named after Metatron--it doesn't have anything to do with the entity itself.
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I do understand that. What puzzles me is why one of the names of God's Valet would be inscribed around the seal, being a part of it as it were.

Unless Valtiel/Xuchi's celestial duties extend beyond its indentures to God?

I don't claim to be a scholar in these matters, to be sure.
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Also remember that Xuchilbara was a diety in the religion that pre-dates The Order, and, of course, so are some of its sigils.

About your signature: Do you mean "Hey, my grandma is a whore"?, or is it correct as is?
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more detailed pics:
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according to this site, this is what they look like:
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Damn...well, can anyone read Enochian? That pink Metatron might spell out something different.
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:( Wait, I'm alittle confused now. So what's that symbol with the red circle and there's an eye on top? I heard THAT was the seal of metatron, but then heard it was halo of the sun (??). I heard Alessa put it around town to hold back the evil (which really didn't work); or is that what the triangular symbol did??
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The symbol you're describing is the Halo of the Sun, and it never appeared in SH1. It's the save point in the third game, representing resurrection. The Seal of Metatron/Virun VII Crest is the neutral symbol of power that Alessa was using to seal the town and prevent the birth of The Order's god.

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Knick Knack wrote:Damn...well, can anyone read Enochian? That pink Metatron might spell out something different.
Well, the Enochion alphabet was from the 16th century. Dr. John Dee and his associate, Sir Edward Kelly claimed that the alphabet and the Enochian language was transmitted to them by angels. It's used in Enochian magic to call angels. You might be able to tranlate the symbols into letter, but if the words are in Enochian, I wish you the best of luck in finding someone who can translate it.
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Knick Knack wrote:Damn...well, can anyone read Enochian? That pink Metatron might spell out something different.
The characters look greek or something, the one looks like a lambda, but then in the skins ripped from the game that i posted, they resemble the enochian crap too, so i don't know. the fact is, there just aren't really good reference photos of this symbol like you find of the halo of the sun. it's unfortunate....
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I'm just curious as to whether or not it spells out anything different than 'Xuchilbara,' but yeah, due to a lack of clear reference shots, it's hard to compare the characters.
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