Angela / Eddie
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Angela / Eddie
Has anybody else ever noticed how Angela is pretty much an inverted version of Eddie, and vice versa?
The most obvious first. Angela is a thin woman with black hair; Eddie is an overweight blonde man.
Angela is first seen outside in a graveyard; Eddie is inside a bathroom.
Angela wears what an old woman would; Eddie dresses like a child.
Angela was abused sexually, Eddie physically.
Angela fights with feelings of wanting to commit suicide; Eddie does the same with his urges to kill other people.
The biggest thing that I noticed, however, was where the two were last seen. Eddie is in a freezing meat locker that resembles the final layer of hell thousands of feet below the streets of Silent Hill, and Angela walks up a flight of burning stairs as if she were ascending into heaven.
I would expect separate characters in a game to be different, of course, but these two people are so exactly opposite in so many ways that there's just no way it could have been unintentional. I used to think that this was evidence that neither of the two existed in the first place; could it be that, or could their differences mean something else entirely?
The most obvious first. Angela is a thin woman with black hair; Eddie is an overweight blonde man.
Angela is first seen outside in a graveyard; Eddie is inside a bathroom.
Angela wears what an old woman would; Eddie dresses like a child.
Angela was abused sexually, Eddie physically.
Angela fights with feelings of wanting to commit suicide; Eddie does the same with his urges to kill other people.
The biggest thing that I noticed, however, was where the two were last seen. Eddie is in a freezing meat locker that resembles the final layer of hell thousands of feet below the streets of Silent Hill, and Angela walks up a flight of burning stairs as if she were ascending into heaven.
I would expect separate characters in a game to be different, of course, but these two people are so exactly opposite in so many ways that there's just no way it could have been unintentional. I used to think that this was evidence that neither of the two existed in the first place; could it be that, or could their differences mean something else entirely?
Good contrast, but how does Angela dress like an old woman?
To me, she dresses like a 19 year old girl who is ashamed of her body and covers as much of it as she can. That and it's cold and foggy.
I never noticed anything horribly odd about her style of dress. Maybe we're just all too used to 19 year old girls dressing like whores and forget that some people dress conservatively.
To me, she dresses like a 19 year old girl who is ashamed of her body and covers as much of it as she can. That and it's cold and foggy.
I never noticed anything horribly odd about her style of dress. Maybe we're just all too used to 19 year old girls dressing like whores and forget that some people dress conservatively.
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Dead as far as the mind goes
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::halfsmile:: You've got a point there. I've just never seen, however, a teenage girl in a giant white sweater. I agree that her outfit does show off the fact that she's ashamed of the body she's in, but it also strikes me as something an older person would choose to wear out.
EDIT: It was cold and foggy, yesh, but that didn't seem to stop Eddie. :I
EDIT: It was cold and foggy, yesh, but that didn't seem to stop Eddie. :I
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This goes along with a theory I had a while back-- long gone into the Abyss now after the forum crash-- about how Eddie and Angela are two sides of a coin, that coin being James's subconscious.
Angela is so guilt-ridden over what she's done that she can never hope to recover. Her only choice is suicide. She represents the side of James that, overwhelmed with guilt and sadness, drives himself into the lake.
Eddie, however, surpresses regret, blames his victims entirely, and continues living-- albeit insanely. This could be the side of James that runs off with Maria / resurrects Mary.
Angela is so guilt-ridden over what she's done that she can never hope to recover. Her only choice is suicide. She represents the side of James that, overwhelmed with guilt and sadness, drives himself into the lake.
Eddie, however, surpresses regret, blames his victims entirely, and continues living-- albeit insanely. This could be the side of James that runs off with Maria / resurrects Mary.
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I always considered Angela and Eddie to be kind of like...two different endings to James story. What could happen. Or, as it's been said, two sides of a coin. So naturally they'd be opposite. But it's never been laid out neatly as such :3
Query: What proof do you have that Eddie was abused physically? I don't remember hearing that at all, but it's been a while since I've played. I figured he was mentally/emotionally abused.
Query: What proof do you have that Eddie was abused physically? I don't remember hearing that at all, but it's been a while since I've played. I figured he was mentally/emotionally abused.
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I thought I could remember him saying the words "beat up", making him physically abused. Either way it is implied by what he says.Drewfus wrote:Yeah, Eddie was most likely just emotionally abused. Thus making another contrast between him and Angie.
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Do you know what it does to you, James? When you’re hated, picked on, spit on, just cause of the way you look. After you’ve been laughed at your whole friggin’ life.
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. . . AND THAT'S THAT.
. . . AND THAT'S THAT.
I just don't see it, sorry. And when Eddie says that he's been picked on and spit on, I seriously doubt people physically walked over to him and spat on him, it's a figure of speech. To be spat on is a form of disrespect, so he means that people disrespected him. So I don't really see how he was "physically" abused.
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Have YOU ever been spit on? I have. People did it for the stupidest reason (I was a "freak") and so I don't doubt people would spit on the "fat kid" loner at their school. And you're also completely belitting emotional abuse.
BlueFloyd: Angela was physically and sexually abused by her father.
BlueFloyd: Angela was physically and sexually abused by her father.
I'm not dead yet, dammit.
Why did you put that in? Anyway, I think that usually where there is a lot of emotional abuse, there has to be some physical too. I mean (for those of you still in school) have you ever seen a kid that everyone picks on who has not been hit or hurt for some reason?the Adversary wrote:Do you know what it does to you, James? When you’re hated, picked on, spit on, just cause of the way you look. After you’ve been laughed at your whole friggin’ life.
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::nod:: I uh-soom he was a teenager when the abuse began.
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