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Yea, it would explain the Michelle/Dahlia reversal business if they both represent the same person.But anyways, Michelle just seemed so kind and perfect that it feels like she's a fantasy version of her mother. Unless she's a fantasy version of herself, hmmmm, interesting take on it.
Have you even played the game?no i mean i never knew dahlia was the harrys wife. its not mentioned in the game
Except for, you know, Cheryl and Dahlia and Harry and Kauffman all saying so.theres no proof that dahlias the mother. and again, the mother sounds nothing like dahlia. ive recorded all 3 characters voices. thats how i know
Another great theory that makes senseHexagram wrote:I can't say that Harry's wife and Dahlia are the same person because one is real and the other is a part of Cheryl's imagination. We can assume Harry's real wife is Dahlia because of the scene where the older Dahlia says she's his wife. She definitely represents Cheryl's mother, she just might have a bad opinion of her and thus she's a slut/drunk/whatever game you're playing
She may have had a rough relationship with her mother as most teenagers do. Especially if Harry died in a car crash after breaking up with his wife and telling Cheryl he loved her (like we see in the love lost ending).
I think she painted her father up to be a "hero" while she blamed her mother for what happened. She thought of her mother in a negative way (Dahlia) and imagined a perfect mother she wished she had (Michelle). As progress is being made with Cheryl, John (Harry) breaks up with Michelle, and she begins to feel sorry for her mother. Even if she is still in denial about her fantasy mother not being real.
And MariaRising, thank you.
Not that I recall. But Dahlia and Cheryl's mother look very similar (they also look a bit like that woman in Harry's house on Levin st, I think it is). Also, Kauffman says, near the end, that her mother isn't the monster she makes her out to be. The only character that is shown is a sort of negative manner is Dahlia. It's pretty much left for the player to figure out.helldescent wrote:kauffman never addresses cheryls mother as dahlia. ever
helldescent wrote:dahlia is her mother. but dahlia isnt not harrys wife.
Huh?helldescent wrote:dahlia is her mother. but dahlia isnt not harrys wife.
That could be true, but could you explain? Sounds very interesting to me. Yeah. Just before everything freezes over above the Green Lion store. She's even wearing a wedding ring if I remember correctly.AuraTwilight wrote:Except...Dahlia outright says she's Harry's wife.
helldescent wrote:when kauffman says your mother isnt the monster u make her out to be, its refering to how cheryl blames her mother for them splitting up. she has resentment toward her. thats all.
You're forgetting the scene when Dahlia tells Harry she is his wife. Why would one of Cheryl's illusions claim to be her father's wife if she wasn't created to represent Cheryl's opinion on her mother? None of the other characters claim to have such a close relationship to Harry. In fact, Cybil, Michelle, and Lisa are all strangers to Harry. None of them mention knowing him previously to their meetings in game. Dahlia is the only one who claims to know Harry before their in-game meeting.helldescent wrote:you just said opinion. thats different from fact or proof. there is proof that the mother isnt dahlia at all. people arent listening
