Hopes and Fears for the new game (possible spoilers)

Post by **Travis** » 23 Feb 2009

I don't agree. I think it actually DOES get deserted.

Post by **The Adversary** » 23 Feb 2009

Well, you're mistaken.

Post by **Travis** » 24 Feb 2009

Please explain why.

Post by **AuraTwilight** » 24 Feb 2009

People still live there, and never stopped living there. It's a resort town that is active in all five games.

Post by **Oddish** » 24 Feb 2009

Remember to think four-dimensionally: something that's in Misty Silent Hill may not be present in the Otherworld, and vice versa. Ditto with Real Silent Hill, which is presumably full of people eating, working, sleeping, and going about their lives in general. They're not present in the town's two (at least) alternate versions.

Post by **Travis** » 24 Feb 2009

I still believe they only did it that way in the movie.

Assuming that you're correct, what's the criteria for someone to be "trapped" in the misty or hellish Silent Hill?

Post by **The Adversary** » 25 Feb 2009

Quicklinksâ€”use them. All of your questions concerning the town's abandonment will be answered.

Post by **Travis** » 26 Feb 2009

Sorry but I'm still not convinced. And I'm certain that when they made the first SH, they wanted the town to be deserted (foggy Silent Hill).

Website · Post by **Mr.FLOOT** » 26 Feb 2009

Foggy Silent Hill is not the real Silent Hill, in Origins and 1's case, Foggy Silent Hill is under Alessa's control, it is her world, her escape, or attempted escape, from the Order and their plans.
The real Silent Hill is still a resort town which is inhabited by people. That's why Cybil vanished

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Not just because she died

She went into the otherworld, the foggy silent hill, so anyone looking for her would only see the Inhabited Silent Hill and not the deserted foggy world.
As mentioned before there is a full explination on the forum somewhere. Just do a search.

Post by **AuraTwilight** » 26 Feb 2009

Sorry but I'm still not convinced. And I'm certain that when they made the first SH, they wanted the town to be deserted (foggy Silent Hill).

Well, they didn't, since they kept calling the events Harry saw as Alessa's Nightmare. Here's a big clue for you: The car years update throughout the games, and a lot of the cars in SH2, for example, were made after the year Silent Hill takes place. Similarly, James and Mary vacationed in Silent Hill after the Alessa incident. And if the town was deserted in reality, how are the monsters forming, and how do you explain an INFINITE VOID surrounding the town if it was in reality, surrounded by the rest of the real world? And how come no one in other games mentions something big like everyone dying the year of the Alessa incident? That'd be big news. "My wife...Mary, sent me a letter calling me here to this town. Our special place before all those people were killed..."

Post by **Travis** » 26 Feb 2009

You didn't understand me. I was talking about the time where only SH1 existed. I've come to the conclusion that they changed it for the needs of SH2.

Post by **The Adversary** » 26 Feb 2009

That doesn't change anything. The town wasn't abandoned in Silent Hill either.

Post by **Oddish** » 26 Feb 2009

I expect that the movie has muddied things a bit, since they made the town abandoned in reality as well. One of several missteps on the scriptwriters' part.

Post by **AuraTwilight** » 27 Feb 2009

You didn't understand me. I was talking about the time where only SH1 existed. I've come to the conclusion that they changed it for the needs of SH2.

I understood you, you were just wrong. Silent Hill was never abandoned, even when SH1 was the only game. The idea that the Foggy Silent Hill was the real world or that the town is deserted as early as the game opening, when you see that Cybil's bike is left behind and she apparently ceased existing, or when you get to the end of the road and have to try and reason how the hell an infinite void can exist anywhere in our dimension. Or THE ENDING where Harry runs to the real world with a baby/Cybil/Cybil and a baby.

Post by **Travis** » 28 Feb 2009

AuraTwilight wrote:Or THE ENDING where Harry runs to the real world with a baby/Cybil/Cybil and a baby.

Actually at the ending, Harry and Cybil run in the foggy Silent Hill.

Anyway you have some good points but that doesn't mean there was a parallel "real" world in SH1.

I'm asking again: What's the criteria for someone to be trapped in the foggy Silent Hill? Why Cybil was trapped in it? (Sorry if I seem a bit stuborn

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Post by **AuraTwilight** » 28 Feb 2009

Actually at the ending, Harry and Cybil run in the foggy Silent Hill.

And the ending scene, integrated into an altered prologue, has them standing in a new dawn in the real world, holding the baby and smiling at each other.

I'm asking again: What's the criteria for someone to be trapped in the foggy Silent Hill? Why Cybil was trapped in it?

In general, people with strong emotions cross over. Alessa's were strong enough that she could pull other people into her world, and did so. Cybil was pretty much sucked in accidentally while Alessa made a grab for Cheryl.

Post by **Travis** » 01 Mar 2009

AuraTwilight wrote:And the ending scene, integrated into an altered prologue, has them standing in a new dawn in the real world, holding the baby and smiling at each other.

That scene takes place OUT OF the town.

AuraTwilight wrote:In general, people with strong emotions cross over. Alessa's were strong enough that she could pull other people into her world, and did so. Cybil was pretty much sucked in accidentally while Alessa made a grab for Cheryl.

How come we only see Cybil and not anyone else too then?

Post by **AuraTwilight** » 01 Mar 2009

That scene takes place OUT OF the town.

Yea, so? They still had to get into normal reality either way, and you can't run across those infinite gorges, bucko. Unlike Alessa, they can't walk on the air.

How come we only see Cybil and not anyone else too then?

Cybil, Harry, and Cheryl were the only people on the road. Come on, now.

Post by **The Adversary** » 01 Mar 2009

You're still arguing the town's "abandonment"? Here, let's make this simple:

Abandoned towns don't develop or change.

Post by **Arsonist** » 02 Mar 2009

Abandoned towns don't develop or change.

True. But I think that what Travis means is, that originally, before any other Silent Hill games, Silent Hill was supposed to abandoned, and that the foggy world was supposed to be the reality.

Personally I disagree. I too thought it was supposed to be the real world when I first played it, but, I was nine, and the concept of other dimensions was beyond my understanding. But after looking back, the craters, the snow, I concluded that it was, in fact another dimension.

Also, I doubt Harry would take Cheryl to an abandoned town for a vacation.