Clearly, but do you think the Eastern symbolism of the color white had any influence as well?The white house, with white siding, that Angela is seen running through in the introduction; the white house with the off-white doors—shall I bring up chastity, and virginity, or can you figure that one out on your own?
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You've brought a good point. I'd wager that it's something implied on the scene. I've always though about the eastern connotation of the color rather than the western. In my opinion, it's even more about death than chastity itself, but it sure doesn't hurt to bring up another apodosis such as the said ones in Tom's sentence.
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There are two problems that I have with this, although it is a theory I have not considered before. First, is the assumption that Silent Hill is no longer a "normal" town, a fact that (I believed) a majority of people recognised that Silent Hill is a normal functioning town, but certain people can "slip" into alternate SH, which in itself acts as a conduit into 'otherworld' SH.Anonymous wrote:About Laura: Angela and Eddie are both persons that came to SH like james, but Laura is not. She is a vision of the past, you migth say. She was a girl that liked Mary, and hated James. She visited Mary at the hospital very often. She see's Silent hill as it looked in the past, just a normal nice town. She is there to torment James like Maria and Pyramid-head.
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Laura is not a figment of anyones imagination, nor is she a "vision of the past," she is as normal as James, Angela, or Eddie. She IS, however, in an the alternate SH -- which means she does not see a bustling town filled with people and tourists. However, since she has no (for lack of a better term) 'inner-demons,' her alternate SH probably just resembles nice, sunny 'normal' SH -- just minus all the people.
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My only questions about that theory involve the graveyard scene and the labyrinth scene. The general assumption is that when James is in close proximity to another character, he sees the town the way they do (so with Eddie, he sees dead people, with Laura, he sees no monsters, etc.) But, the first time he sees Angela is in a graveyard (you don't see too many of those inside people's houses), and the second time is in that weird room with all those pistons in it (not too many of those in houses, either). Not saying you're wrong, just a comment.
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The person writing this noted that Angela was in the graveyard only because she wasn't in the limits of Silent Hill yet; she wasn't in her "house" yet.Oddish wrote:My only questions about that theory involve the graveyard scene and the labyrinth scene. The general assumption is that when James is in close proximity to another character, he sees the town the way they do (so with Eddie, he sees dead people, with Laura, he sees no monsters, etc.) But, the first time he sees Angela is in a graveyard (you don't see too many of those inside people's houses), and the second time is in that weird room with all those pistons in it (not too many of those in houses, either). Not saying you're wrong, just a comment.
And I'm guessing the piston room was part of her Otherworld.
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Just was finding answers to my questions on forum - this one was quite the main one: (do characters see SH differently and the most important) -may- their 'worlds' mix up/collide.
That's a nice theory I think - even the truth I think
I wondered why Angela (at stairs) first thought and called James mother, now I know, thanks;)
P.S. made me think, same theory - that's why James saw Maria as Mary also?
(of course, there's many other facts that Maria was/is/ ment to look like Mary..)
Just was finding answers to my questions on forum - this one was quite the main one: (do characters see SH differently and the most important) -may- their 'worlds' mix up/collide.
That's a nice theory I think - even the truth I think
I wondered why Angela (at stairs) first thought and called James mother, now I know, thanks;)
P.S. made me think, same theory - that's why James saw Maria as Mary also?
(of course, there's many other facts that Maria was/is/ ment to look like Mary..)
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A new thread was made about that question, go look there: http://silenthillforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15721
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Question, MMY. I like the theory and all, but this bit doesn't sit well with me.
In fact, that whole scene doesn't make sense as being in Angela's house, from her perspective.
I suppose I could understand this as her intending to head out from her house, but it doesn't resolve her response to James asking if her mom lived in the apartment. And if she had the intent of searching for her mother in the town itself, shouldn't she have been perplexed as to why she couldn't actually leave her "home"?
And one could attribute the apartment thing to her parents possibly being separated, but James specifically asks "this apartment", and it requires a piece of information being invented for the express purpose of making that argument...
The other two scenes past this one still fit the theory, though I guess it could be argued that there's no concrete support for it, so doesn't Occam's Razor (I think I'm using that right) favor the easier explanation that she's wandering through her own version of Silent Hill?
I know Angela's pretty loopy, but if she was in her own house, why would she respond with "I don't know..." rather than mentioning that it wasn't an apartment at all? I could see her not asking questions if she just thought James randomly ambled in her house because she's obviously pretty mentally addled, but this seems a bit much.James: It’s okay... Did you find your mother?
Angela: Not yet... She’s not anywhere.
James: Did she live in this apartment building?
Angela: I don’t know...
In fact, that whole scene doesn't make sense as being in Angela's house, from her perspective.
Here, why wouldn't she wonder why he's asking that if she's sitting in her own home? Like, "Well, duh. This is my home."James: So why did you come to this town anyway?
Angela: ...I, I’m sorry. Did you find... the person you’re looking for?
And again - here, she directly answers the question of going out to town, so she must've had the intention of going to look for her mother somewhere else.Angela: I’ve gotta find my mama...
James: Should I go with you? This town’s dangerous. Now I know what you meant back there in the cemetery.
Angela: I’ll be okay by myself. Besides, I’d just slow you down.
I suppose I could understand this as her intending to head out from her house, but it doesn't resolve her response to James asking if her mom lived in the apartment. And if she had the intent of searching for her mother in the town itself, shouldn't she have been perplexed as to why she couldn't actually leave her "home"?
And one could attribute the apartment thing to her parents possibly being separated, but James specifically asks "this apartment", and it requires a piece of information being invented for the express purpose of making that argument...
The other two scenes past this one still fit the theory, though I guess it could be argued that there's no concrete support for it, so doesn't Occam's Razor (I think I'm using that right) favor the easier explanation that she's wandering through her own version of Silent Hill?
I like this theory. Plus, it reads nicely.
Anyhow-- PrescitedEntity, while it does seem odd that Angela never questions James during the conversation about her mother and the apartment, you also have to consider this: Angela mistook James for her "mama" at one point. She clearly isn't in the right state of mind.
Plus, to me, it seems like she's trying to change the subject. Instead of answering all his questions straight on, she seemingly side steps them and talks about something else.
Anyhow-- PrescitedEntity, while it does seem odd that Angela never questions James during the conversation about her mother and the apartment, you also have to consider this: Angela mistook James for her "mama" at one point. She clearly isn't in the right state of mind.
Plus, to me, it seems like she's trying to change the subject. Instead of answering all his questions straight on, she seemingly side steps them and talks about something else.
I think she's just confused and doesn't really know how to answer the question. Either that, or she doesn't care enough to try to figure out why James is asking questions in the first place. After all, she is in Silent Hill for a reason and all James seems to do is upset her.James: So why did you come to this town anyway?
Angela: ...I, I’m sorry. Did you find... the person you’re looking for?
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I considered all of this. That's why I brought up that last quote - she obviously directly answered James there, and there's no way she was assuming he was her mother then - he asked specifically where her mother was. You brought up the only quote in which she sounded evasive - for the rest of the conversation, her responses are a little strange, but not as suspicious up until the bit with the knife.
And like I said, I know Angela can be very loopy, but she is responding to James' questions in a reasonably logical fashion. I see no reason to think that she's so mentally addled that none of her dialogue is to be trusted.
And like I said, I know Angela can be very loopy, but she is responding to James' questions in a reasonably logical fashion. I see no reason to think that she's so mentally addled that none of her dialogue is to be trusted.
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Re: Silent Hill, according to Angela:
The two doors go into the same room? On my map it shows two different rooms, one door going into one room and the other door into the other room.MMY wrote:Why then are there two doors leading into the same room?, one of which that cannot be opened; one of which that does not lead into a room at all.
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The only thing this theory doesn't explain is this;
If Angela's Silent Hill and James' Silent Hill are two colliding realities, how come Angelas reality is the one always present when they both meet? Why can James enter Angelas reality, while she can't enter his?
I assume this explains it; James is such a introvert person, since he holds back and doesn't want any help with his troubling problems. At the same time he suffers inside for what he has done --- Therefore, escaping into others realities seems quite relaxing. This, however, is nothing he controls or whatever. The reason why their meetings end up in Angelas reality is because Angela is more open and shows emotions --- her psyche is therefore much easier to enter than James. Whatever force or power of the town which controls these type of "reality collisions", Angela's was the predominantly choice in this case.
If Angela's Silent Hill and James' Silent Hill are two colliding realities, how come Angelas reality is the one always present when they both meet? Why can James enter Angelas reality, while she can't enter his?
I assume this explains it; James is such a introvert person, since he holds back and doesn't want any help with his troubling problems. At the same time he suffers inside for what he has done --- Therefore, escaping into others realities seems quite relaxing. This, however, is nothing he controls or whatever. The reason why their meetings end up in Angelas reality is because Angela is more open and shows emotions --- her psyche is therefore much easier to enter than James. Whatever force or power of the town which controls these type of "reality collisions", Angela's was the predominantly choice in this case.
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Because whenever they're meeting, it's usually because the other person's emotions, and thus Otherworld, is more powerful at the moment, drawing in others.If Angela's Silent Hill and James' Silent Hill are two colliding realities, how come Angelas reality is the one always present when they both meet? Why can James enter Angelas reality, while she can't enter his?
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