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Again, I accepted Origins as cannon. I’m just playing devils advocate here, but…
subjective.
Is it really? Even if we say that Alessa isn’t evil, we still see her being a complete sadist in the game. She grins every time she causes Travis pain and makes him pass out, she grins especially gleefully when he finally goes ape-shit on her. “Happy? You dug up my parents, what now? When do we get to look inside your sick little mind?â€
She is also, clearly manipulative, there is no way you can deny that.
Also, she clearly wants revenge like her movie name sake, she sees Dahlia, unleashes the otherworld full of extremely aggressive monsters, more so then ever before. Upon seeing Dahlia, she goes so batshit, she completely ignores Travis’s safety.
She went from “Oh, but mommy, I just want to be with you!†to “Oh, but mommy, I just want to tentacle rape you with barbed wire!†in a matter of hours. And then after seven more years of torment, she turned back to being a poor, timid child. You have to admit that that doesn’t make much sense.
And a few other things. There she is, watching the actors practice for the play and thinks “Hm, I don’t really like this Prospero guy, he reminds me of Dahlia. Hmm… What should I do? Oh, I know! Fry the actor’s Brains!â€
And if Travis really is
she just decides to let him go when she doesn’t have any use for him any more?
Lets him to be free to kill more innocent people?
If that’s not evidence that she’s portrayed as a selfish little bitch in Origins, I don’t know what is.
subjective.
Maybe so. But it doesn’t change the fact that Kauffman doesn’t really want god to be born. He’s just using the cult for his finances, like Vincent. Kauffman sells them his drugs, and Vincent just outright steals from them.
While Aura’s reasoning, is quite… reasonable, I am still not convinced. Mainly because Kaufmann accuses Dahlia of betraying him. “Quit messing around, return things the way they were before! Did I ask for this? This isn’t what we’ve agreed on! No one uses me! No one!â€
He also accuses the cult of “being easyâ€. “And you all… Well, it kept you busy. Ha! You’re easy!â€
That, to me, seems more like he’s been using them, while at the same time, Dahlia is using him.
Granted, you’re right. This point really is subjective.
i thought it was stated that the fire was caused within the basement (by alessa, who caused the boiler to explode due to stress - a psychic blow), but spread to the rest of the house. since alessa is found by an altar, you can assume she was not in the basement when the fire happened - why would she be? somehow i doubt climax would intentionally skip over that detail by placing her in the attic as opposed to the basement. it's assumed she was moved from the basement, or she was not there in the first place.
I’m pretty sure that Translated Memories stated that Dahlia was the one who started the fire. It ain’t called the “immolation ritual†for nothing.
It also states that Alessa’s body was found in the basement. The police concluded that the fire was cause by a faulty boiler, I always figured the cops were either in the cult, or that Dahlia sabotaged the said boiler.
Also, the fire destroyed six other houses in the process, but in Origins, there doesn’t seem to be any houses anywhere remotely near the Gillespie residence.
uh. perhaps you should source that official-sounding place.
I tried to find it, but I failed. I did read it about a year a go after all.
BUT! Translated Memories stated that the split occurred
during the ritual.
Another sort of related thing, Lisa’s age. It is officially announced that Lisa is sixteen in Origins, is it even possible for a sixteen year old to be anything other then a volunteer in the hospital? I don’t think so. You can skip a few grades, but I never heard of anyone who skipped the child labor laws.
It doesn’t really contradict the cannon, it’s just plain stupid and illogical.
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Anyway, now on to Aura.
Not necessarily. For all we know, they just showed Alessa pictures, and told her "We want you to wish for this man to disappear really, really hard. Pray to God."
And she would do it, innocently, to please Mommy.
Fair enough, but something else just occurred to me. How did
they know Alessa could kill people just by wishing for it?... Fucking plot hole.
Well, for one, who else could it possibly be? Who else has the power and intent?
Like I said, it could have been a note from Travis’s survival instinct.
Well, actually, Dahlia does go out doors and is then suddenly gone at inhumanly fast speeds.
So does Kauffman, so did Angela, and Cynthia spawned next to Henry every time he’d walk through the door.
Does that mean that they cast spells too, or is that just a video game mechanic?
And she summoned Cheryl and predicted the goddamned future. Her spells are pretty potent.
True, but she couldn’t see in to the future just like that:
Gyromancy
A method of divination in which a person spins around inside or walks the circumference of a circle drawn on the ground, the perimeter of which is marked with the letters of an alphabet. The divination is inferred from the letter at the position where the person either stumbles or falls across the circle’s edge. The person would repeat the practice "...till he evolved an intelligible sentence, or till death or madness intervened.
Taken from Wikipedia.
Seems like it takes some effort to do it. I’m sure that summoning Cheryl was even harder to perform.
Who said anything about timing? It could be as simple as "Make me impervious to harm while I'm hurr in de othurwurld hurr." Certainly less baseless than "Hey, lookit me I'm Dahlia I can steal psychic powers."
But she wasn’t impervious to harm, Kauffman shot her eventually, because she didn’t even noticed he was there, he took her by surprise. Not to mention that Cybil was indeed telekinetically pushed away, much like Alessa pushed Harry.
To Lisa's credit, without the drugs she sees Alessa's nightmares telepathically. I'd sell her out to make it stop, too.
I always assumed those were your usual drug induced withdrawal hallucinations. Mainly because she also wrote about dry heaves, which fall into the symptoms of drug withdrawals too.
Besides, Lisa’s hallucinations have more in-common with SH3’s otherworld then that of the SH1. Chances are, she was hallucinating about blood and puss oozing through the walls because of her job. She was constantly changing Alessa’s bandages, but Alessa never healed. “Even when I change the bandages the blood and puss just start oozing through!â€
Poor Alessa. If I was in Lisa’s position, I’d totally pull a James and put a pillow over that shit.